Parks and Rec Advisory Board Meeting

When we met him, but he didn't say it.

I'm Abhishek Singh. I'm saying it though.

No.

Did you get that?

They were like We were talking about like Did people want Did the managers want to meet in person and the answer was unequivocally And then it And then it was like, "Okay." And they're like But you know, you have people who work from home. Okay, so they need to change their days. And I'm like we're Once or twice a month. It was It was

Was that in the email? With all the other managers? When did y'all have that last meeting?

This week.

Mhm.

I'm enlightened in my own way. [laughter] Like there's

Where have you been, lately?

lots of things.

Like to call to order the April 29th, 2026 Apex Parks and Recreation Advisory Board meeting. As always, we always like to start with an invocation, moment of invocation. So, if you would. Thank you. Next, pledge of allegiance.

I pledge allegiance

to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you all again. Next order of business [clears throat] is the approval of the meeting minutes from both February 25th, 2026 and March 25th, 2026. So, I could get a motion to approve those meeting minutes for those two meetings.

Motion to approve.

Second.

It's been motioned and properly seconded. All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried. Next up, we got the executive report and the projects and program report.

I feel like I haven't seen y'all in 6 months.

2 months, I know.

And we're packed tonight, which is pretty awesome. So, first thing I'm going to do I'm going to have Abhishek kind of introduce himself. He's our new board member. So, if you want to introduce yourself, please do so.

All right. Good evening everyone. I'm Abhishek. It's truly a privilege serving Apex on this advisory board as a resident and a parent living in the Apex. It it it it's I truly care basically like creating about these green ways and the parks where you know making them safe and accessible. It it's kind of like the way I see it is

how families come together. So, it matters a lot to me. And my background is in science, engineering, and entrepreneurship. So, I'm looking forward to kind of at least listen to all the needs and uh basically contribute where I can.

Great. Well, welcome. Glad to have you.

So, I'll dive [clears throat] into some of my um things here and we got a lot going on. So, we have a volunteer appreciation dinner uh tomorrow night at the senior center. You're welcome to come through. Um it'll be from 5:30 to 7:30 and it'll be in the three large rooms at the senior center. Uh we have Peak Fest coming up this weekend. We may get wet. 90% chance of rain. Uh they're calling for it all day, I think, but it'll be held on town campus this year uh because of the streetscape work downtown. We had to move it this year. So, um that'll be coming up this uh coming weekend on Saturday. And that'll be from 9:00 to 4:00. Uh we had a really successful Earth Fest this past weekend. Not sure if any of you were able to make it out. Um we did have some people do some fashion show work. Um I think Angela, Jamila,

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uh Julia Blanchard, Laura Blaine um, in our department all were part of the fashion show. I heard it was a big hit and um, it yeah, you should check some things out that that those folks make cuz those are pretty cool items of clothing. So, if you want contact numbers, we've got them.

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Um, so, the other thing is April, if you didn't know, was April National Volunteer Month. So, all of these things are kind of like celebrating that. We also had Apex High School group from Apex High School, their horticultural program, um, along with Allison and that guy right there, Bradley Cole. Uh, they did a lot of plantings out in

the courtyard. Not sure if y'all have seen that. Made it look a lot better and then when it starts growing a lot more, it'll it'll definitely help that area out a lot. They also did some plantings along the side of the community center at Earth Fest, which are really cool for a pollinator area. So, that's good stuff, too. Um, the AAPI month is this coming month and we've got sushi and sumo on May 7th. We have a mahjong social on May 21st. The the sushi and sumo is from 6:00 to 8:00 Apex Community Park. Be a really cool thing, really cool experience if you want to visit that. And then on May 21st, 5:00 to 8:00 at the senior center will be the mahjong social. Um, I think that's about all I have unless y'all have any questions.

Craig, who who maintains the grounds?

That is a contractor. It's Green Scapes, I think.

Okay. I was curious, it's not one of our departments.

It's not.

So, they contract that out.

Thank you, Craig. Appreciate it. Next up, chairman's report. Don't have anything other than welcome Abhishek to the to the board. Great to have you.

Thank you.

Then also want to leave room for a public comment. Public comment tonight? Not at all. Any old business? And there is an item here for a new business, the presentation of the draft feasibility study for Haddon Hall Greenway extension.

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Good evening, everyone.

Hello.

Good to see everybody.

You as well.

And this is a fun one cuz you don't really have to do anything but listen and ask questions tonight. So, we'll enjoy that. Um so, as you know, we present greenways um all the time to you, sometimes during

projects that are being developed um that we're requesting a developer do, and sometimes we're lucky enough to get funding um to proceed with uh areas where we have public easements and um sort of filling those gaps in in projects areas of town. So, the Haddon Hall Greenway feasibility study is that. It's a study of the feasibility of us being able to potentially uh design and plan for a greenway in an existing neighborhood that was built in the 1990s, and we own public greenway easement and um land that we can develop in that area. Um and so, we undertook this study as we had residents requesting um connectivity within this existing neighborhood um to get them closer to downtown. So, uh there's existing greenway in the neighborhood here that's from Blackburn Road around to this area by their pool. They also have a private greenway around the lake in their neighborhood. And we have greenway easement that's from Blackburn Road down to Apex Peakway. And so, uh this study corridor is about um, well, just under uh, 3/4 of a mile. The existing trail is about a half a mile. And so, um, all we're looking at at this point is where could Greenway go? Where are there, um, areas that we needed to stay away from, like wetlands and streams? Uh, where might there be a better location that's higher and away from the creek that would be less likely to flood? Um, there are sewer corridors in this shared area, and there's also, um, stormwater that um, is piped from the street down into the creek, and so, there's a lot of conflicts that we would need to, um, work around. And so, uh, we walked the site with our consultant and, um, kind of did our best guess of evaluating what we could see, how many crossings of the creek there would need to be, and so, we've, uh, developed an alignment, um,

[clears throat]

that is mostly within the existing easement. There are some areas that might require us to, um, provide additional right-of-way. So, I'm going to start at, uh, Blackburn Road. There is, um, currently the terminus of the existing Greenway easement. Um, we would need to provide connection from that, um, heading eastward. What you see is we immediately kind of go into a low area that's got a lot of wetlands. Um, and so, while we try to protect as much as we can, we are allowed to impact, um, a small amount of wetlands in a project. And, um, so, we had to evaluate where we could or would be able to or want to or need to, um, do that, but then, at the same time, where we might do something like this and install boardwalk, which would, um, minimize the impacts to wetlands. Uh, we also have areas where the best, uh, option was to pipe the creek under the trail. So, instead of building a boardwalk or a bridge to cross over, um there are areas where we felt confident that we could get permitted to um put a culvert in and allow the creek to go through that pipe under the trail. Uh so, we've got some sections like that. We meander across and back and forth um because this creek is not straight. And um so, what we're showing is um you know, some areas of where we felt like we would have again the least amount of impact, the best chance of having a um well ma- well cared for and easily more easily maintained Greenway um that might not be flooding and um or causing erosion. And then um we have another culvert boardwalk here and then another culvert that we would cross over and we get to Brittly Way. And then we would have a mid-block crosswalk and what that means is it would be at grade, so you'd be crossing at the street, but mid-block is because it's between this intersection and this intersection. And so, it's crossing

where there isn't an intersection. Um and it wouldn't would have signage but not likely have any kind of um warning signals or anything that you might see on like the Peakway because of what's allowed or um what we require.

So, no actual crosswalk?

Well, like a marked crossing at grade.

Okay.

So, um

Sorry.

Um

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From From Brittly Way, um we would continue along um this area. There used to be uh a pond that was drained and so, the remnants of the dam are still there and so, in some ways we're kind of trying to navigate around what's an elevated area that's a broken out dam um when they drained the pond. So, um there were some more complexities in how we could get around to this. Um and then, while we have property here, uh and there was consideration about going down to Magnolia Road Magnolia Road Trail, which is a separate subdivision. Um, they have a storm pond here, and um, they do have sidewalk access along the Peakway to this. And so, other impacts down this way weren't necessarily because of the number of people served didn't make sense for us in a recommendation of of continuing that to that, although because there is a way that they could connect. Um, and then this section was boardwalk. Um, you see this kind of S-curve area that uh, sort of coming back up to grade because the greenway in that area um, down by the creek is substantially lower than what the grade is. And if you've ever seen the brick house that sits here, they're up at the street level and their garage and everything is down underneath the house. So, it's a it's a fairly quick drop. Um, interestingly enough, there's a little sliver that's was right of way that was dedicated to the town um, sort of a continuation planned somewhere a long time ago of Hillcrest. Um, so we could get to that, but to get over here around the existing the residential lot goes

much closer to this point. And so, we would have to secure easement um, in this area to make that work. Um, we've got a fairly good relationship from what I understand from our real estate folks with the property owner because it actually spans both sides of the street. And so, we feel like that's something that if we proceeded with this would be something we could manage to work out with them. So, um, we were notified um, all properties within 500 ft of sort of the edges of this um, alignment. And so, it's almost all of the people who are directly adjacent to the corridor, but also some people that might be on other sides of the street. Um, while this wasn't required for us to do that, this is pretty consistent with what we do with re-zonings and other things in the town, so we were trying to make our notification be as um consistent as we could to other processes. Um and if we were to move forward to other um stages of planning and design and construction, then we might, you know, be notifying them of public meetings that might happen related to the project moving forward. Um so this is a good metric for us to use. And then we also notify the HOA and property management group that we have contact information for. Um and if you notice, we were all standing out in front. We um mailed this notice and invited people to come not only to the meeting, but also to a information session from 4:00 to 6:00 where they um we had folks that dropped in and asked questions and shared concerns. And then, rather than gathering a lot of public input in a form here, we um sent out and you all have a QR code at your um at your little stations um that we'd ask for you to um share what you think about this. There's more information on there, but um since this is just a study, it's sort of a is this something that we see as a priority? Um you know, is it something that we should we have a lot of support for and how

would we get we're going to get feedback so that we know when we go to our capital project planning process in October that we'd be able to um determine how to prioritize this against all of the other greenways that um we're working on currently that are being driven by the town and not necessarily part of a development. So that's [clears throat] a notification. Um here's the QR code if you want to catch it here. Um but we've already gotten some responses and then um we've talked to the people today. We have contact information for them if they've asked for it and some have sent us like pictures and images of concerns of flooding or whatever in their backyard um or other areas. Um and I know it doesn't really show on this plan. There is a rezoning. I'm just bringing up something that's come up a couple times that's been proposed for a site that's on um, Salem Street. It's a large farm with a white house. Um, that's on the west side of Salem Street, kind of across from Bailey's Academy. Um, that project was submitted for a rezoning. It has not um, come to We haven't brought it here yet. No. Um, we have so many projects that it will come to you guys as a recommendation when they present to us and we've talked to them about, you know, land dedication and and a trail and whatever else. Um, so you'll have a chance to see that project, but these residents have been actively involved because it connects to their neighborhood. Um, and so there's been a lot of comments that we've kind of gotten about what are the impacts of that project if it develops on this corridor of stream and water runoff and erosion and stuff. And so, um, obviously all things that we'll take into consideration when we if we move forward with the next phase of um, doing a plan. And so, I'll get you to that point. Um, this is again a study. So, this is just looking at sort of if and where a greenway could go. Um, and and our best guess of what's ideal. And then the next step would be in October, um, we will prioritize the greenway corridors that

we have studies completed and determine which are the next ones that we would move forward to request design funding. And then during that process, they go through um, the budget review and so, um, we might ask for four projects to be funded in the capital projects and maybe two get funded and then those move into design. And then once we have designs of projects, then during the next year we ask for um, money for construction or look for grant money or or other opportunities. And so, this is in the beginning stages of let's understand what we've got. There's been a request. We have a corridor. What does that look like? What it would it entail? The next thing would be to do full engineering drawings, construction drawings, getting permitting, and then the next step would be to ask for funding. So, um this is, you know, I would say at a minimum like a 3 to 5-year off kind of reality if it were to move forward year after year. So, um initial steps, but you're going to start to see more of these because we have four other projects that we're doing design on. Um with the idea that we're going to keep a rotation of moving and hopefully get one or two funded every year. Um so that we can be designing, building, and constructing um over the future. So, yes.

Can you kind of give them, especially for the new members, an understanding of how the prioritization of families [clears throat] works?

Yes. Uh so, as a part of the master plan adoption in 2023, we created a metrics that um evaluated greenways in two stages. And the first was those to study, and then once we had a study or a design, sort of the the ones to move forward. And so, it takes into consideration things like how many people does it connect? Uh where is it located? Does it get to parks, schools? Um Could it be something that somebody could use to get to work or um you know, to the library or something, you know, just a feature in town? And then um public engagement, like how many people have requested it? Is it a high Is it becomes a higher

priority if if there's a lot of people that it serves who are coming from multiple neighborhoods and saying we would like to have this. Um we also look at things like is it on our, you know, plan as a primary corridor? Is it a part of the state plan? Um is it part of the Wake County's project plan? And so, um for now, those are the the sort of the metrics. Um and we have a chart, and while we don't necessarily have a formal like assigned group to to measure against that, um we do have the ability to sort of collectively as a team sort of identify, you know, we keep track of who's contacted us. And sometimes it's just an email where somebody says, "I live in this neighborhood and I want to know why I can't walk to here." And we take that as they're asking for this greenway to be completed. Um, and so and we try to balance them across town so that we're not building all just one corridor or all just in the western part of town, but how can we, you know, provide connections or fill gaps, um, around the entire town. And we're because we have an allocation of funds every year, we can kind of keep rolling through getting projects to the next step. Um, and then, you know, hopefully if we have people who if this were to move forward, the people that came tonight or the people that filled out surveys would be advocates for the project and would share that information and and either come here and ask us to build it or ask town council to fund it as a part of the budget cycle. And so, um, we're building the people who are going to be the voice behind asking for and, um, gaining support because we're we're not always the ones to pick and choose which one is the best. We have many that should be, um, should or could go forward. And so we're we'll let the the residents speak on that. And and obviously if you guys hear of projects, you would direct them and say, "Tell the town staff and they'll work on it." Anything else? Okay. So, um, there's not necessarily need for a

recommendation tonight. Um, we just knew we were having the event and getting this project to this process. Um, asking you to fill out the survey. There's maps, um, there. There's also, um, information online and we're happy to answer any questions. And I can go back and pull up a section if you want to look at the map or I'll leave it to your direction of what you would like to know.

of questions.

Okay. Do you want

I have a couple, so I'm going to go ahead. Do you want the main Does this help? If needed? Okay.

My question is [clears throat] general and that is um I sort of have a general sense of that neighborhood and area, but approximately how many users do you think might be serviced through this extension?

Um well, it sort of it ties into several other uh transportation bike ped projects. So, long-term the Apex Peakway is supposed to have a second like it's supposed to be two lane two lanes each direction median divided um and the south side of this section um would have a 10-ft wide uh side path constructed with it. So, getting to the Peakway on a trail could result in someone being able to get you know, to the Peakway and on the Peakway trail and be able to loop anywhere into you know, into town. Um they also could be off-street to the Peakway and then get to commercial areas. Um and then uh the planning department has a safe routes to school project which includes sidewalks that are on Hillcrest and Cash Street to the back of AV Baucom. Um and we also met with the Thales Academy, the junior and high school elementary school as well as the um elementary private or charter school um up here and talked to them about you know, opportunities because they're private, they can use they people could use the greenway versus sidewalks to get to school. Um and so uh there is a sidewalk network

that exists, but there's uh some preference for people especially if they're say on a bike an adult with a maybe a five or six-year-old who's not a great rider, they wouldn't want to ride on the sidewalk or on the street and so this does provide a different experience. Um and so you know, I think we're getting a mixed response of would people use it? There's people that use this loop in their neighborhood every day and their private section would they continue to use that? Yes, I would imagine if it were available. I think [clears throat] there's maybe 400 homes total that are connected and then the question sort of is would residents from you know this these Southside would they come up to the Greenway and use it to get around you know over to Beaver Creek Commons versus being on sidewalks. So you know linking the system usually opens up an opportunity for more than just the neighborhood that you capture but I think there's mixed feelings even in the neighborhood about sort of the it's lived without it for 20 some years. Do we really need it? But also people who have said we really need it and we'd like and that's why we're here is is to kind of get that feel of and to understand what it would take to be able to make it work and what that looks like and just because it's a standard that we're operating under and based on recent projects and information we've got from other communities. Greenways similar to this are in the price tag of about five to six million dollars a mile. So if we're talking you know three quarters of a mile you're in the three and a half to four million dollars potentially and depending on how much Boardwalk or if we have to acquire right away that could be more and so there is that balance of could that money and that's how we are going to evaluate priority is some of it is cost isn't a huge part of the scoring but it is something we do consider because if you could build a mile and you know impact three schools two parks and 10,000 residents that's different than 400 for

the same cost. So we we definitely need to continue to evaluate but at least we know what could be potentially done in this area and then in a balance that against other studies to know what's next.

Yeah, I appreciate all of the your whole team's work on it just kind of studying and and going out there and walking and like seeing what the actual conditions are and then kind of you know coming up with a plan that that responds to the actual conditions. Um I think my questions were about the kind of the cost value um scenario. So, I appreciate that we have kind of a matrix to be able to you know feed that in see you know is is the level of service proportionate to like what the cost of the town you know to the town will be. So, um I'm glad that we have those uh in place. I had just a couple of I think just questions in general and you had mentioned that we would need easement on that one property. Are there any other places that we would have any other kind of property impacts or is that the only place that we would need additional easement?

Um the one property right at Brickley Way is pretty tight getting the kind of the

Oh, yeah. Sorry. This is uh our consultant from Wetherill, Jonathan [clears throat] Hepner. And I will get you to the

Yep. It was that one property right at the Peak Way.

Um down there. Might go to the next slide.

Is that the Is that the only one along the stretch of what the study corridor?

The one right where the arrowhead of the mid-block crossing is, that parcel on that northeast east corner. It's pretty tight in there, so there's potential there. I think we'd probably end up with a little retaining wall or something in there and without getting too detailed with the design, I don't know exactly if we'd be able to stay off of that property completely or not.

Is everything mostly in like a zone two of the stream buffer?

Uh as tight as it is, we're probably getting into zone one quite a bit in some spots.

And do we just in general do we use like hex piers like things that are less disturbing?

I we it's case by case.

Okay.

You know, what we what we look at based on what we need to accomplish in that location.

Yeah, just seeing the amount of boardwalk again, it just goes back to the kind of like cost value and proposition. Um one thing I is just in thinking about the connections to school. I mean, I think it's a great opportunity to kind of have that um connectivity that could get to Balcolm, could get to you some of the other schools. I think if this does move forward, it's really um it needs to come hand-in-hand with a crossing, like a a pedestrian crossing at Apex Peakway because you like you said, it is going to be a four-lane and the um the real trail is going to be on the south side. So, you know, you come out of the head of this like just creating something that is more than a probably a high-vis crosswalk, I think it's probably going to be really important if it can be a way to to get to school. Um then yeah, I think it is looking at what is feasible cuz it is everyone's south of the greenway just it is will it intuitively feel more direct to get on their sidewalks in the roadway network and kind of move down, but I'm sure that's part of the ultimate evaluation. Um Uh what are the slopes like? Is it Is it accessible the whole way or are there places that would not be like like meeting kind of ADA accessible?

I think everything we do would meet in the outdoor area guidelines, so

Yeah, everything I have shown we should be under 5% and that's the area with the switchback there is or the several switchbacks is the most complicated part as far as meeting grades.

Right.

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I think those are all my questions.

Was it?

Any other questions?

Just a quick question about the feedback

that you're getting. Is it mixed or how do the residents feel about it or

Um I mean you tonight I think we we got we got some people that were like let's go. How do we get it? And and some others who are sending us some data about what it looks like in their backyard and their concerns. Um I I think there is even maybe a couple who have said you know, we've got the existing trail that could use some renovation work. Why aren't you looking at that first? Um and that's something where we're working on a program about, you know, we've got several greenways in town that were built in the '90s that um we didn't necessarily really have a long-term management plan for and so we did repairs or things as they've come up, but we are um we're definitely developing a plan of, you know, sort of like they do with the resurfacing of the roads of like if you have a greenway and we're, you know, and boardwalk and bridges, they should be we inspect them and we fix things, but maybe what we think of as fixed isn't the same as what a resident wants as fixed or that there's sections that maybe we're going to like really need to resurface or, you know, do other grading and things to make work because they're 25, 30 years old. So um so we've kind of gotten some of that of what are you going to do with the old section and and I feel like some people are like well, I would like it, but could you push it to the other side of the creek? So it's not in my backyard. And I even heard one person said their kids said don't be an NIMBY. Um so, you know, it's but we know we're we're, you know, we're squeezing it in into an existing neighborhood and that's often, you know, much more complicated and and you get, you know, a lot of times the people that live on the perimeter are all excited and the people who live directly behind it are um you know, are concerned about the impacts to them, but um that's, you know, we we're recognizing that. We know it's coming um and we just have to balance that out of, you know, what it provides as a benefit to the community and what it costs us to get it done and and and where does it fall within all of other projects um that are that we have to score and evaluate and

and so as budgets get tighter, we're going to be more creative and and we're doing these studies first versus going all the way into design and then saying, "Oof, wait." Or that's too much. Um so this gives us a step in the door and then we can look at it against other things and and again, use our metrics and to to sort of create a more formulaic decision-making um effort.

I want to say thank you. I appreciate being a part of that feasibility study and you know, the beginning of all of this. You mentioned having four other projects that you're looking at. Are they going to go through the same feasibility?

Uh so uh the ones that we're working on are they're the next step. They we had the feasibility study done with the master plan. So that's uh extending Beaver Creek through the nature park to the western boundary of the nature park, extending Beaver Creek east to Highway 55 in JC Park. Um and we're working on that one in combination with the NCDOT 55 widening project. Um the best way to get to 55 and downtown from the terminus of Beaver Creek at 55 in JC Park. Um the Reedy Branch one that we got the um Great Trail State grant funds to design. Um that feasibility study was also done in the master plan and it's Kelly Road to Goliath Lane. Um that's another one that was in an neighborhood area developed in the '90s and early 2000s and so um the feasibility showed us moving from one side of the creek to the other um because literally these people's backyards almost to the houses are underwater and there's a high side on the other side. So um that's a change and we don't have all those easements, so we'll we've got the study done to this point, but now um we're going to work with them to do the design. So the next thing would be to see those. We still do a public engagement with the design process making all the residents aware. It's also some of the way that we can if we

need easements from an HOA you know, the people who back up to it might not want the easement to be granted and the rest of the neighbors are like it's a greenway we can get to it and so um the HOA's depending on how they were written and their rules might need to have a vote and the board can't choose sometimes the board can do so. Um those require us to engage with the board and the residents in a much different way. We're not saying would you like this? We're saying we're designing it because we know it's critical for our infrastructure for connectivity. Um the question is can we put it where it's best suited to be? So um so you'll see some of that and you know, bringing these back to the board so you see where the projects that you kind of heard about are coming to the next step. Um because at some point then the next piece is asking for funding and so um when we compete for funds it's like do you build the greenway or do you build the park or do you build the playground or do you put lighting or shade structures and so um you know, we say yes to all of it but the reality is we have to pick and choose which which things on even in the list of things become the priority for the department.

Angela, do you know the timeline on the um sidewalk from the Picower to Hunter Street through Hillcrest or on Hillcrest?

Uh that's funded I think it's this year.

Okay.

So um I can get the exact date. That's um being handled in the planning and transportation department group so um but I do know that that they're aware of our project and we know about theirs so um

That would be completed well before any of this would ever

Yes. Yes. Now the the crossing is something we have discussed and I think some of that we don't usually determine what type of crossing that comes from our engineering department or NCDOT depending on whose roadway it is. Um and so there are standards of like what what type of crossing that they will allow or will require. Um and so a lot

of times like I was talking about a mid-block crossing in this case, you know, sometimes they'll say no, we want you to cross at the intersection. Well, but then someone is going to run across the road here no matter you know, like you're just going to have people who are going to you know, I can see my way across. I'm just going across and so we just have to work on what that would look like. But for this scope we were getting to the sidewalk um because the rest of it isn't there yet. But obviously if we submitted this for planning approval or TRC approval, someone is going to say how are you crossing and then then we would be told what they want to see and we would include that in our design.

I did have one follow-up to my my question. The input that's more of concerns or warranting a response is are those responses directed to that those persons or is it published where everyone sees what the questions and concerns are and then as a response?

I mean, I think generally when we collect this kind of information it's it's a guide for us. If there is a true like if somebody said, "Oh by the way, there's a tree that's fallen and and it's damaged the fence and it's going to be where this is or we've got severe flooding and we think we think you need to fix it now." Then those are things that we get and we pull out and we address with our um you know, if it's park operations or if it's water resources um that we would ask depending on you know, what what the condition is or um if someone you know, mentioned to us you know, we get we get those kinds of complain- comments or concerns submitted all the time even if we don't have a project. So we we would address them in the same way.

Okay. What's the thoughts, questions? Thank you, Angela. Appreciate it.

Thanks for having us.

All right, no other new business. All we would need is a motion to adjourn.

So moved.

Second.

Motion and properly second. All in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed? Meeting adjourned. Thank you, everyone.

Thanks, everybody.

Thanks, sir.